MAIL BAG [email protected]
Doi Suthep Cable Car report
In the last issue of the Chiang Mai Mail you reported that 70% of those
surveyed approved of the Doi Pui cable car project. I must say I was quite
surprised to hear that number since I have talked to a large number of local
people and they all oppose the idea. When I asked why they said for two main
reasons, it will be an ugly eyesore blighting the view and it will pass over
Doi Suthep and the temple and felt that was quite bad.
I asked my Thai friends and they said they had not heard of a public meeting
being called and if they had would have attended so as to voice their
opposition. Furthermore, none of them were called or contacted in this poll.
I wonder who they surveyed when they asked these questions. Are they
conducting a truly random poll sampling? If so, I would be curious how they
do so. In my home country most people have land lines and so by calling a
random sampling of phone numbers in the area you are likely to get a fairly
random sample. However, in Thailand everyone uses a mobile and that could be
anywhere so a random sampling of people in Chiang Mai would be impossible
via random phone calls.
If they go to a shopping mall they are unlikely to get a truly random
sampling since working class people, or people with full time jobs, will not
be in the mall shopping. I suppose the Land Transportation Office in Hang
Dong would be a good place to go, most everyone has at least a motorcycle
registration to renew.
I just have to find their results very suspicious, to be honest. Perhaps
they should consider a real public meeting, with announcements around the
city, on TV and in the news and then decide on whether or not this is
supported by the public.
I recently saw this modified songthaew in Doi Saket and thought what a sensible
solution to the problem of songthaews carrying many people. In an accident, at
least, this might go some small way towards keeping people from being flung out
of the vehicle. It certainly keeps the kids inside from hanging off the back.
I saw a terrible photo on Facebook of the aftermath of the Mae Jo mass lantern
release last month confirming a previous reader’s worst fears. There were spent
lanterns everywhere, littering trees, pavements, fields, roads, fences,
literally everywhere. I guess that is to be expected when thousands of these
things are let loose all at once. It certainly is a beautiful sight to behold
but viewing that photo has changed my mind about releasing Khom Loy along with
the thousands of other people.
I did not see any postings from my Thai friends indicating anything other than
that the people responsible for cleaning these things up was anyone other than
those who got stuck with them in their fields, on their fences and houses.
It is a shame that such a beautiful sight cannot be better managed with a care
for the environment and the people who live nearby.
In the future I will certainly think twice before releasing a Khom Loy and must
confess that I did not release any at all this Loy Krathong.
Disgusted with the rubbish
90 day report question
Thank you for that excellent report on the meeting Chiang Mai Expats Club
recently had with Immigration officials. Whilst some of it was already known to
me, some of it was a real eye opener! Two years to get permission to build! I
can’t really understand the reasoning behind the that but who am I to question
I am actually writing to you to find out the exact procedure for sending in my
90 day report by mail as requested by the Immigration officials at the meeting.
Can you tell me where I need to send it and what do they need?
Chiang Mai Mail responds
First you will need to go to the Immigration website and download the forms.
Please be aware that typesetting the newspaper sometimes adds a space here and
there so be sure and remove any spaces in the link below to reach the website.
http://www.immigration. go.th/nov2004/en/base. php?page=download
Then you will need (taken from the Immigration website)
1. Photocopy of passport pages with following pages (Do NOT send your passport)
- front page showing name / surname / Passport No., ect.
- current visa
- last entry stamp of immigration
- last extension of visa
2. Photocopy of departure card TM.6 click to view Example TM.6 card
3. Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any)
4. Completely filled in and signed notification form TM.47 (Don’t forget to
5. Envelope with stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer
in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the
notification. This part must be kept for reference and for future notifications
of staying over 90 days.
The above mentioned documents must be sent by registered mail and the receipt of
the registration kept by the foreigner.
It is important to note that it must be sent at least 15 days before the
required notification date. You will need to keep the receipt of your registered
mail in case it gets lost. It is important to note that they cannot do mail in
90 day reports if you are late.
The address for the 90 day report is
Notify 90 Days
Chiang Mai Immigration
71 Sanambin Road
T. Suthep A. Muang
Chiang Mai, 50200
They note it can take up to a month to send it back to you so best to wait
patiently for it to come back.
Immigration Office questions
It was pathetic to hear the officers from Immigration offering many excuses but
few solutions to the unacceptable level of service provided in Chiang Mai, same
as they do at every meeting.
It’s obvious that independent consultants, preferably foreign, are needed to
bring fresh ideas to the problem.
It’s also obvious that the number of callers should be kept to a minimum - we do
have internet and mail services (or have I missed something?).
Questions I would address are:
Why is a retirement visa for only one year? Why not two? Why not for five as in
some neighbouring countries?
Why interview when all that’s needed is a financial statement?
Why report every ninety days when it proves nothing?
Why can’t work be shared with Chiangrai Immigration?
Why all the paper, which I’m told is sent to a local incinerator every month?
Some people say it’s not the staff’s fault, but I’m afraid it is for them to
tolerate such outdated procedures and mismanagement.